Συνάντηση 30-07-2015

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Place
danmilon node #140
Date
Thursday, 30 July 2015
Time
18:00-24:00

Attendees[edit]

  1. looselyrigorous
  2. gina (remotely)
  3. foivos
  4. danmilon
  5. dzervas
  6. z)

Agenda[edit]

  • Rogdia and UoC node links
  • Basic ruleset for HWMN
    • (incl. Internet sharing guidelines)
  • Athens Wireless Summit 2015
  • Wiki: CC-By-NC or CC-By-SA or CC-By only?

Minutes[edit]

Philosophy & Basic ruleset for HWMN[edit]

A discussion on a basic ruleset for HWMN was initiated. After some free talk (ethical usage? want to enforce? how to deal with unethical?), opinions and troubles being expressed, we run a list of potential issues that might arise and try to identify the criterias we use to filter these issues in our minds in order to generalize and put them in words.

Bandwidth Abuse[edit]

The network has limited resources, and even non-malicious persons can occupy such a large amount of the bandwidth that the quality provided to the rest of the people sharing the same links is sub-par. Firstly, the resources of the network can be increased to meet high demand by creating new links and paths. Until this happens, members should think of the others in the network and limit their traffic so that bandwidth is shared properly among the users.

Power Imbalance[edit]

The network is an open community and there needs to be balance in the power of the users. For example a single member can not own a big part of the network because then even if other members object to his opinions, they might need to compromise since if he leaves the network collapses. This also applies to technical know-how of the network, which should be spread to many members.

Improper advertising of the network[edit]

The network is a community with its own philosophy. This philosophy needs to be transfered to new members also. For example, someone invites a new member on the basis that "you get cheap internet!!" then the new member has false expectations and has not been shown the philosophy of the community and the whole concept.

Intruding privacy sphere and collecting private information[edit]

The privacy of members and their private information should be respected. We try to enforce this security-wise, but we know it is very hard to technically protect from all sides. For example deep packet inspection should be imposible through encryption of traffic. Still, all members are expected to respect basic rights such as privacy of others. Doing deep packet inspection in the traffic that passes from your node is like putting up microphones in the bedrooms of the clients of your node, and we dispose it.

Disclaimer: Illegal (by law) activity[edit]

The network is provided as-is and you are responsible for your own actions. Illegal activity is not endorsed. It is up to the community during its meetings to discuss and act on a per-case basis.

Freedom of expression[edit]

As a community we try to protect freedom of expression, even if we object to the opinions being expressed. Both ways. For example if a member sets up a website with religious propaganda, most of the community might not endorse such opinions but should do its best to allow all opinions to be expressed. In the same way, another member can set up a website that objects with religious views.

Business in the network[edit]

Having a business that profits from the network is endorsed, under the rules. Making money is not an issue, but not giving back to the community is. Giving back can be expressed in many ways, for example financially, fame, donate hardware. But as always, we need to always ensure that the philosophy of the network is preserved and the basic ruleset is not being broken.

Security[edit]

There is no technical way to block someone out of the network, especially with sector antennas such as rogdia. This means there needs to be social enforcement of usage of the network according to its philosophy and basic ruleset. A whitelisting approach can be used in order to prevent attackers, but even this can be overcomed through social means. (e.g. I got the password from a friend). We concluded that there need to be passwords on the wifis, even to protect from non-malicious people, such as a stranger connecting via DHCP on rogdia (easy) and sucking all bandwidth.

Remove non-commercial from wiki license[edit]

On a quick discussion, we concluded that the non-commercial term of the creative commons license of the wiki is not needed. Further discussion can take place on the list and if there is no objection remove it. Or else discuss in another meeting.

Topology[edit]

Switch UoC Radio antenna from Rogdia to manousos[edit]

Right now traffic from rogdia to labaki flows from you, to rogdia sector antenna, its being buffered, then sent to UoC radio from the same sector antenna, and then to the physics dept. Manousos is connected to rogdia through a dedicated dish antenna and another dish is already pointing to UoC radio.

We are going to switch the UoC dish from rogdia to manousos. This way traffic to labaki through rogdia can flow in a streaming way.

Giouxtas Node[edit]

We just remembered this, and want to begin communication again on September. It needs one person to constantly work on this for two weeks, calling, talking, organizing, etc.

AWMN Summit[edit]

Kalyvas might be around and go as audience mostly. We'll send an email on the list and ask for participation.